In September 1995, from a conversation with Another World activist Thomas Freeman, Victoria Wyndham found out about my Another World Video Library. She was impressed that I had the history of AW on tape, and she was interested in seeing them. I made copies of four tapes (October 1990 - February 1992) from my original masters and mailed them to Victoria care of her agent, Felice, who is also her sister. In the cover letter I talked about how new management at AW should be made to watch the tapes in order to better appreciate the show. In November I sent a copy of the November 1993 - March 1994 tape to Victoria's agent, as requested.
In November I got a belated thank-you letter from Felice, who said that Victoria hadn't had time to watch them yet because she'd been busy with her play, Couplets, but "now... she is ready to view them and see what she can do to show them to people at Another World." Felice had seen three of them, and she called them "incredible,""wonderful," and "very interesting and useful." She asked for a copy of the November 1993-March 1994 tape, because "Vicky never views her work, so it would be useful to her to see the scenes where Carl courts Rachel in New York City." In December I got a letter from Victoria thanking me for all the tapes. She said she invited some management people to her place to schmooz and watch videos, but it never happened, basically because they weren't interested in a "busman's holiday." She said it was scary watching herself, and that she watched it "sideways."
In September I sent Victoria some printouts from the AWHP. That material included the videolist, Rachel's and Justine's entries in the character guide, a modified seniority list of the top 25 actors, and the freeze frame statistics. In November I sent her some of the other files along with several dozen of my best AW trivia questions. In December I sent her the introduction lines, the exit lines, and a miscellaneous stats page including "Real Days," "Cory Thanksgiving Speech-givers," "Most Consecutive Days,""End-Credit SNAFUS," and "Top 10 Freeze Frames 1995."
In her December letter, Victoria called me a "goldmine" and thanked me for the "excellent material." In a postscript she said that my "lists of statistics blew [her] away."
In December I sent Victoria a print-out of the AW Fan Poll answers, which had had 103 respondents at the time. I suggested that various departments on the show might be able to make use of it. Victoria sent me a postcard in January 1996. She called the survey "an interesting document" and thanked me for sharing it with her. She said "I will share it with others - Jensen should be thrilled - and Charles too!" She was a good sport about the negative responses she had received in the poll.
Bill Wolff (Show Announcer)
In 2003, an old colleague of Bill's, from before his Another World days, emailed to ask if I had any way to get in touch with him. I didn't, but the following year he emailed again to let me know he'd been able to track down Bill on his own. He passed on Bill's phone number and urged me to drop him a line. I phoned him that summer, and we had one chat. His voice was the same as ever.
Carol Roux (Missy Palmer)
In 2005, I was emailed by Kelly Brady, a longtime fan of Another World who'd met and become friends with Carol in 1993. He wanted some of the old material for himself and to share with Carol. I was soon put in touch with Carol over the phone, and we were to have several conversations that year.
It was magical speaking to Carol. She was Missy, through and through, and still is. The love she generated from viewers as Missy is still evoked, even from just hearing her voice (which hasn’t changed). She is very private and somewhat reclusive and wants people to remember her as she was, as is the case with Beverlee McKinsey.
She was very happy and very grateful when I sent her videos, CD’s, and some script printouts (she has nothing herself, and really laments that none of the old soaps saved their material). I gave her Bill Wolff’s phone number, and one day she phoned him and reminisced about the old days.
Kelly and I, after hearing story after story about the show every time we spoke to her, were able to convince Carol to do a telephone interview on analog tape that I then converted to digital format.
John Considine (Vic Hastings / Reginald Love), March 1996
I'm going to have to be a bit sloppy on dates, but from the best of my withering memory, here's my soap history.
"Bright Promise" (NBC) Doctor Brian Walsh for approx. 6mos in 1972 (or 3).
"Another World (NBC) Vic Hastings for two years 1974-76.
"The Young and the Restless." I was fired from this job approx. two months after signing with them. I played the rich guy, Chamberlain? Something like that. The husband of Jeannie (can't even think of her name now, Corbin Benson's mom), and after a couple of shows we photographed like mother and son, instead of husband and wife. Character makeup didn't help, and so they replace me. First and only time. Not a happy experience.
"Santa Barbara" (NBC) C. C.'s brother for 4 episodes in 1985 (or 86) Actually this was my screen test for Reginald (which I didn't know at the time).
"Another World" (NBC) Reginald Love for two years 1986-1988.
And that's it, Eddie... as close as I can determine date wise. Hope it helps. Also hope I'll have another for you before I quit.:)
Til next time, warmest
The four episode stint was used by NBC to put me in the running for the part of
Reginald, Eddie, but I was flown to NY to test for the part against 3 other
actors, all of them English (British), which was the way the part was conceived.
It actually got down to me and one of the Brits, and they originally tapped the
Brit for the part because of the writer's original vision of Reginald being
British... Fortunately for me (and unfortunately for him) they changed their
decision after his first day's taping, and put in a distress call to me to come
to NY and start work that night! We compromised to the next day's early flight,
and the rest is history. That's the full tale, Eddie. Hope it helps you.
Unfortunately, Eddie, I have no idea. There was no other Hastings when I was on the show. Perhaps after Vic (my character) left the show (supposedly transferred to Washington D.C.) in '76 they brought a relative or spouse onto the show. That's my best guess, but I really have no knowledge whatsoever. Sorry. Glad I could assist on the other areas.
My name is Erik Pillar and Gary Pillar AKA Gary Carpenter is my father. I was on the net searching for a " Star Trek " Theme for Windows95, saw a link to actors and found Gary Pillar on a search and that led me to your AW page..WHEW!!
Anyway I wanted to clear up some things that were stated about him. You stated "Gary Pillar formerly Gary Carpenter."
In the early 1960's Gary Pillar played a theater usher in "Requiem for a heavyweight" with Anthony Quinn and Jack Gleeson, Michael Bauer on TGL and "Yutan" in " A Private Little War " with Nancy Kovak and William Shatner on Star Trek airdate: February 2, 1968 ( Stardate: 4211.4 )and it wasn't until after that show he changed his name to Gary Carpenter.
He went on to play parts on prime time TV such as Asst. D.A. Ray Pierce on S.W.A.T with my cousin Robert Urich, The F.B.I. as Special Agent Lucas and then to daytime drama again on Another World as a character he played on TGL, Michael Bauer and then through out the 1970's as Ray Gordon ( Married to Alice ). After he left the show he moved to Santa Monica, California because he was close with my God Father Martin Sheen who lives in Malibu, and then starred on "Capitol" (CIA Agent Dawson ) and General Hospital (Toby Roberts) and managed to fit in time for a national TV and Print Ad for GM as "Mr. Goodwrench." WHEW!!
My father worked and exersised himself to death! He used to swim 5 miles a day in the Pacific and sometimes swam to Catalina Island. He had a great sense of humor and was a warm and caring person and was well liked and respected in his field. He died June 2, 1985. My sister and I miss him very much and think about him often. I tried to get SOAP OPERA DIGEST to do a 10 year anniversary memorial of him and Michael Maloney, the west coast editor, worked very hard getting together all of my family photos and stories about his work but SOD hasn't run it to date.
I'm working with Ira Cirker, who is a former director of Another World, on a book. Unfortunately, he has no early tapes of the show--the one we're especially looking for is the 10th Anniversary, one hour episode. Is there any chance you might have that one? And, if so, how much would it cost to get us a copy. Also, how far back do your copies go?
Thanks very much.
Hello, just found my way to the Another World Website you maintain. Terrific job! Unbelievablely extensive. Congratulations.
I thought you might add me to the day players list. I played The Reverend Keaton, The Hospital Chaplin, for a number of appearences in '96. I officiated the Matt-Donna wedding in the hospital room, and conducted Maggie's memorial service. Anyway, just saw the list and thought I should be there.
Best of luck with all your endeavors.
Liza Chapman (Janet Matthews)
I really enjoyed browsing through your Another World website. My mother was Liza Chapman, who played "Janet Mathews" from 1964 to 1966. As the story goes (and you probably know more about what happened on the set than I do), my mom was asked to leave the show when she became pregnant with me (Janet was not able to bear children herself and it would have been hard to justify to the audience to see a pregnant Janet). There may have been other factors involved in her leaving but if so, I don’t know what they were. So she left the show sometime in 1966, had me in August, then went back to work and did a few episodes of Secret Storm in November or December. On January 21, 1967 she died in the car accident. I was five months old.
Now I’m almost 33. In the past I have tried to find tapes of Another World recorded between 1964 and 1966 but, as I’m sure you know, they were hard to find. Your website, however, seems to be the best lead I’ve had in my search to locate those tapes. Apparently, Janet Mathews is mentioned in the first sentence of the new AW 35th Anniversary book just recently published.
A few years ago I contacted the show and spoke with one of the producers about how I might see an old show. She said that they didn’t have any tapes like that at NBC since so much time had passed and because they did shows live back then. About a month later I got a call from Leonard Valenta, who directed AW back in the 60’s and had known my mother. He said that word got around the set that Liza Chapman’s son had been asking about her so he was happy to track me down. We had a great talk and he told me some gossip about Audra Lindley (sp?) and others. He sent me a copy of an 8mm film he had taken of Mom rehearsing on the set and relaxing at home in Westport, CT while pregnant with me! It was amazing for me and my family to see that.
So if you get a chance to reply I would love to hear from you and maybe we could work together on getting a copy of an old tape or two. I am definitely willing to pay money to have one, but any info you have about the show, my mom, other actors, etc. would be fun to share.
Anne Meacham (Louise Goddard Brooks), November and December 1999
[Email from a friend of Anne's]
I printed out and shared with Anne your page on her character, as well as the "seniority" list. She was especially pleased with the list: "I know most of the people named here. I shall read through it with much pleasure!"
She asked me to pass along to you some minor corrections on the dates you have listed for her appearance on the show:
She says the December 1972 start date is correct, and that she left in "late May or early June" 1980, to retire to her upstate home because "I was in traction for many weeks." She is uncertain of your April 1981 date for her return to the show, she thinks it was "earlier, but I'm not sure exactly when I got a call saying the writers had written me back in."
She gave some more details, but I didn't get them all down. But she said she was clear that her last show was September 5, 1981, not August 31.
She saw you had Rocky Olsen listed as a flirtation and thought that was humorous. She said her character thought Rocky was contemptible and would never have "flirted" with him.
She seemed impressed with what I had printed out from your website, and seemed surprised to see all that information. She gave me permission to pass on the above, which I was surprised at because she is a very private person.
I am afraid I don't know much about her Another World history, but she is much better known for her work on the stage. Anne originated many of Tennessee Williams' roles in New York, and is credited with saving his life during his breakdown. She won two Best Actress Obie awards, one for Williams' Suddenly Last Summer and another for Hedda Gabler.
I saw Anne yesterday, and discussed your notes with her. I gave her copies of the 1981 and 1982 synopses and she seemed pleased. I also gave her the copy of the TV Guide cast photo from 1975. She said she remembered that day and quickly named each of the actors.
Anne said to tell you that she does not think John Horton ever played Brooks, but the other two actors you mentioned did. She also said that Louise never married Brooks, as is mentioned on your character pages.
She mentioned again that she was very impressed with the level of research on your site (and she hasn't even seen the bulk of it--only what I have printed out for her!) She asked me to tell you that the section on plant names, and the quotes, contain many errors, probably because you have not seen the tapes of the show. Apparently the idea of the plant names was Ira's creation, and all were based solely on Greek mythology. Whenever the plants were named, there was some parallel to stories from Greek mythology. Anne says she carried a copy of Bullfinch's Mythology with her to familiarize herself with the stories before performing the scenes. According to Anne, there were some intern writers who were "precocious" and thought the plant names were funny, gave them names in the script (such as Mr. Belvedere). Those names (and all of the humorous lines you sent me to show her) never made it to the final show because Ira or Anne cut them out or altered them.
Anne also told me that while she knew she was biased, she felt that the AW ensemble was unique, because the producers went to off-Broadway and off-off-Broadway shows to recruit actors. This gave the company more of a "stage" personality. Most of the actors, she said, would often stay the whole day to watch their fellow cast members perform and give them audiences. This was very unique to AW among soaps, according to Anne.
Cathy Greene (Sally Frame), November 1999
Eddie Drueding at AWHP@MAIL.INTRANET.CA>wrote:
Good gosh amighy, you wouldn't by any chance be the beloved, original Sally herself, Cathy Greene?
Dear Eddie, I am indeed that Sally, and I would be very interested in any tapes that you may have. How do I go about getting them?
Anne Brooks (Diana Frame), February 2000
I'm looking for any footage you have of characters Pete Shea and Diana Frame (December 1981 through September 1982), either together or separately. I guess this would be the highlights tape and anything you may have on any other tapes. I would also be interested in the PM Magazine (R.I), 1982 tape you have. Please let me know and I'll send a check.
Uh, whoops, I got caught. I thought you might be too busy to notice. But I guess if you've got a website devoted to this, you might know the actors' names. I shoulda thought of that.
Hey, if you could see yourself half a lifetime ago, wouldn't you want to? When I was doing the show I didn't have a VCR. My parents had a BETA machine I bought them, but they had no idea how to use it.
It would be fun to have those scenes, but please charge me the usual rate. Let me know what that would be.
About your question, yes, P & D did get married, but I don't think on
Christine Burns (Wally Curtin), May 2000
I was just on your Another World website and I thought it was great. Although I stopped watching the show in the late 1980's, it was great to go back over all of the plots and characters. Actually, I was also on the show as a baby and when I clicked on the character list I was suprised that the information on the character I played was incorrect. I began the role of Walter Curtin Jr. when I was a baby in 1971. I must have only been about 6 months old but I was on for the first year or so. They listed me as Chris Ombramonti because I was a girl playing a baby boy's role. As I got a little older, I began to look like a girl, so I was let go. So, Scott Fieldstone did not begin the character role of Wally Curtin.
Susan Sullivan as you know played Lenore, my mother and to this day, I have copies of TV by Day magazine with myself and Susan Sullivan on the cover.
Just a little bit of information for you. Thanks for creating such an entertaining website that I am sure the fans appreciate very much!
Christine Burns (formerly Ombramonti)
Mike Hammett (Dennis Carrington), May 2000
This is truly impressive.
Do you have any video's of the original Dennis Carrington?
The exterior shot of the "Bay City High School" is the front of the Brooklyn Studio.
Veleka Gray (Victoria Paislety, Somerset), July 2001
After I read your e mail I called a friend who has an episode of me and Joel Crothers. I have one of me and Sigourney Weaver and Joel as well as a couple of other scenes with me and other members of the cast.
I was considering duplicating what I have in SP on good tape and seeing what people might want to pay for something like that. Would you know if there is a market to sell these episodes?
It was a wonderful show... my favorite show. I still miss it.
Sullivan Bigg, former lead singer of the band "Wild August"
My name is Sullivan Bigg. I used to be the lead singer for a band called Wild August. Wild August appeared on Another World on August 6, 1991 as part of the "Battle of the Bands" they had going that week on the show. I am DESPERATE to obtain a GOOD QUALITY copy of the August 6th, 1991 episode.
Do you have this on tape??? How good is the quality??? I am willing to pay a reasonable amount for it.
Kerri Darling (Alli Fowler), March 2004
Hi I am Kerri Darling I played baby Ally. I heard there is going to be a reunion, I would like some information. Looking forward to hearing from you. Thanks
Lori Ann Ruger (Marianne Randolph), May 2004
Hi I used to be on the show and I was inquiring how I can obtain videos of when my brother Tom and I were on the show. Any information would be Great. Thank You Lori a.k.a. Marrianne Randolph.
Virginia Browne (Headwriter, 1980-1981), September 2005
“L. Virginia Browne was headwriter from 11/80 to 11/82. [With a period where Corrine Jacker filled in as temporary writer during the writer’s strike, using Browne’s bible] I was replaced by Bob Soderberg in 11/82. Even though I had already left to do Guiding Light with Doug Marland in late 81 or early 82 (can't recall) AW continued to use my story lines & bible and so continued my headwriting credit until 11/82.
“Christopher Schemering wrote a book called the "Soap Opera Encyclopedia" and, in it, he says that I took over Guiding Light and it then went into a "slump." I was pretty darned surprised as, within four months of becoming head writer, I had raised the ratings by two full points and our position from 8th to 3rd. In fact, the folks at P&G filled my office with flowers to congratulate me. Ken Fitts (a P&G exec) said he hoped we'd be working together for years. The VERY NEXT DAY, Allen Potter, the executive producer, announced he was leaving to be replaced by Gail Kobe and she fired me -- the very next day after receiving all those flowers and wishes for years and years of working together. And then they continued to use my bible for 9 more months and kept my name on the credits as headwriter for that long.
“That story, i.e. the flowers and the firing the next day, has become part of soap folklore. I've even had individuals tell it to me but ascribe it to various different writers. I sent Chris a note (along with copies of the network ratings sheets) and he wrote back and apologized, saying he would update and correct the info in his revised edition. Sadly, Chris then suddenly passed away and never did make the revision, so that mis-information stands in what is considered by many to be a very reliable book.
“As for AW, I was supposed to write Texas and was shifted, at the very last minute, to AW, which I had never once seen before being handed the assignment. I spent a week-end in a NYC hotel watching old tapes (those old, huge Beta tapes, I think), boxes of them, to catch up. And, as I posed your question to my former assistant head writer Linda Hamner (with whom I still am friends and still write with from time to time), she reminded me of one story. I guess AW must have gotten a great deal on a crate of baby-crap colored brown mugs. And, as a result, they installed them in EVERY kitchen. Ada had them; so did Mac and Rachel. When Jamie married Cecile, they had them. Even Joey and Sandy had them in their decidedly down-scale apt. You could never do a "cup-to-cup" scene cut (made famous by Gloria Monty of GH) because everyone had the very same cups. Years later I tuned in and there they were, those same cursed mugs. I swear, they must have bought a thousand.
“I've kept up with some of the folks from AW. Warren Burton (Jason) has carved out a great career doing voices for video games. Richard
Bekins (Jamie) is much in demand on Broadway (He was in "Love, Valor, Compassion" the year it won the Tony) and regional theater as well as regular and frequent performances in the "Law and Order" shows. I ran into Chris Rich a few weeks ago at the mall and met his new wife and twin babies, as well as his daughter with Nancy Frangione (the second Cecile). He's doing well on "Reba," as you probably know. James Horan (Denny) lives nearby and produces local theater as well as acts in them. For a bit of trivia, in the film "Gods and Generals," Richard Bekins, James Horan and Warren Burton all had roles.
“And, again, great work on your site. I know the Soap Net cable network is running AW (or will be soon) but decided to start in 1987 which I think is doing the show a great disservice as it will miss all the wonderful shows written by Harding LeMay, whom I believe was the show's best writer ever.
“Take care, Virginia.”
Tracy Browne (Marianne Randolph), October 2005 I played Marianne Randolph during the 1971 season. I was interested in purchasing some of the materials you had listed on the website:
- Another World: 1964-1978 from the DVD collection (Can you tell me if there are any episodes from the 1971 season?)
- Classic AW CD 56:26 (my mom always tells the story of the Christmas episode - the family was singing around the tree - suppose to be real somber - singing Silent Night - but I wanted to sing Jingle Bells and proceeded to do so - do you know if this is on this CD?)
Ryan and Kyle Pepi (Kirkland Harrison), November 2005
How do I get copy of episodes that Ryan and Kyle Pepi Were on of Another World as Kirkland Harrison? I am Alycia (mom). We had an unfortunate incident that lost all of our videos. Thank you for your time.
Alycia Pepi =o).
Alice Barrett (Frankie Frame)
Tom Freeman spoke to Alice personally over the phone. Here is his message.
Alice Barrett (Frankie Frame Winthrop) has asked me to let all the fans of Another World know how much it has meant for her to receive the level of support she is receiving from us all. It has meant the world to her, and she asked that I try to convey how deeply it has touched her heart.
Alice also wanted me to let fans know that she reads every letter she gets. She has had to give up fan correspondence due to being a full-time mother to two, having a husband who is on the road half of each week, trying to run a household and care for the kids, taking classes, not having a computer at all - not to mention her time in preparation and at the studios taping Another World. She asked that I explain this and that she wishes she could write everybody individually.
Alice said "You've been the best fans in the world. The reason the actors are so excited about being a part of the annual fan luncheon is to give back support to all the wonderful fans who do so much for us all year long."
Alice is not defeated, even if TPTB at Another World go through with this ill-advised storyline. She has faith in God and gave credit to Him for the blessings of steady work the past 10 years, including 7.5 years on Another World. She is hopeful (and naturally anxious) that another acting gig will become available. With her persona and presence, how could it be otherwise?
We don't have a lot of time to get messages to NBC, the studio, and Procter and Gamble. Because of this, I am recommending that we all immediately send e-mails and/or tell them we support Frankie Frame Withrop and Alice Barrett!!
Also, I went to the post office today. For 20 cents a piece, you can buy pre-postage paid post-cards and write short messages to TPTB and mail a ton out in a quick amount of time. We really need to move like this week folks. Next week they will probably do the set up for killing Frankie off (my guess). We got to get to the Headwriter Maggie DePriest and other PTB about this.
Jim Cronin (Officer Ian O'Leary)
Jim Cronin (Officer Ian O'Leary, 1/31/96-3/17/97) tells the AWHP: "My fondest memories from my tenure on AW involved hanging out with members of the cast and crew, particularly John Bolger (Gabe), Joe Barbara (Joe), and Tim Gibbs (Gary). This really came about by the fact that I was most likely doing a scene with one of these guys, and therefore would see them first thing in the morning and onward throughout the day. I would also occasionally see members of the cast and crew out and about around Manhattan, and would undoubtedly be greeted with the shout of 'O'Leary!', since this seemed to start off nearly every scene I was involved in. My character was either making a mess of things, or cleaning up messes, depending on the story line. I was also fond of days that ended taping after 7pm, because we were then allowed to take limos back into Manhattan (instead of the usual subway). I would always get teamed up with Linda Dano (Felicia), since we both resided on the Upper East side, so the rides were always interesting. I do miss the AW days, but have happily moved on to another world of my own: a rewarding career (Account Director for a pharmaceutical market research & analysis company of all things!), suburban life in Northern Westchester County New York, and last but not least, a wife and two beautiful little girls. Best to all of the Another World fans out there. It was as much fun as it looked."
Bob Honesysett (Day Player, 1980),
Bob Honesysett tells the AWHP:
"[In September, 1980] I had a friend who put me in touch with Judy Lewis who was the Producer (or EP, don't remember) on TEXAS. Judy made arrangements for me to meet with the casting director at the ad agency that handled AW and Texas. The casting director and I hit it off and she asked if I would be interested in doing the show the following day.
"I was so excited about doing the show that I got an $80.00 speeding ticket in Brooklyn about 10 blocks from the studio. So, the money I made for the day was spent before I got to NBC.
"Behind the scenes that day, there was a light-hearted mood in the studio. The only day players that day on AW were myself and a girl who played Zachary Colton's secretary. I think she actually had two lines. "TEXAS" filmed in the studio next door and their dressing rooms were on the same floor. They had a day player "cast of thousands" that morning (for an airport scene or something) so our dressing room was like a cattle car. You had to put your pants on in whatever space was available - hopefully you weren't shy.
"I saw Constance Ford in the hallway outside the rehearsal room. She said hi as she rushed by. They kept calling the actors names from a loud speaker to report to the studio when it was time to tape their scenes so there was a lot of activity in the hallway.
"When I got into the studio, Victoria Wyndham was trying to grub cigarettes from anyone and everyone who passed by. Although Rachel was quite serious in this episode, Victoria was a cut-up through the entire taping. She was "sick" of doing the flashback scenes and imitated the transition music everytime the scene faded to the pre-taped flashback. It was hard to keep a straight face.
"Douglass Watson and I spoke for a few seconds outside the door of Zachary Colton's office. He was a very nice man! I had watched the show for at least 11 years at this point so you know I was in awe. The rest of the cast that I met was also very nice. Curt Dawson was new to the show and he was still being welcomed by most of the cast. Victoria told him that he was a "great D.A." I remembered Curt from his time on ATWT in the early 70's as Liz Stewart's brother.
"'Brian Bancroft' addressed my character by name when I entered the room - my stage direction was to "say hello back to him without speaking". The prop man admonished me during dress rehearsal to not waste the paper in the stenographic machine. There was no more paper in the building and he had no intention of going out to get more. I always wondered if they used the same roll of paper when Rachel went to trial. I wouldn't be surprised.
"The funniest thing that happened that day was during a break in taping when one of the actors (don't remember his name -- think it was the guy who played Larry) came up to me and asked if I was a court stenographer in real life. I was polite and didn't say "duh" or "Yeah, just like you're a cop" - I didn't know if he was serious or not. I also didn't want to jeopardize any future work that might come my way.
"I had been on GL in 1978, and interviewed for Love of Life in 1979 and ATWT in 1981. Nothing ever came of the appointments and the rest is not soap opera history. I left the business altogether in 1982."